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1. what, no malamutes?

   Comment by Eric C. Snowdeal III — Tuesday, March 6, 2007 @ 12:39 am

2. I hope Mr. Pilgrim used the Flickr API.

   Comment by angelday true — Tuesday, March 6, 2007 @ 5:00 am

3. The length of the “Photo credits” section amply demonstrates the problem with the attribution clause in Creative Commons licenses. (Analogous to the historic problem with the BSD advertising clause.)

   Comment by mpt — Tuesday, March 6, 2007 @ 5:26 am

4. When I saw that poster I expected your name to appear or something as I moused over it.

   Comment by Scott — Tuesday, March 6, 2007 @ 11:40 am

5. Woo hoo, my goober dog, Birkley, made it twice! Friend of mine just happened to catch him as he was casually scanning the poster. Glad I could help out :) Also had to jump onto Flickr and tag both images with ‘dogsofflickr’ and ‘diveintomark’

   Comment by SR4001 — Tuesday, March 6, 2007 @ 3:46 pm

6. Off Topic but I can hardly tell you by email:
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   Comment by Anonymous — Tuesday, March 6, 2007 @ 8:15 pm

7. Except that the actual transcript must have looked like pseudo-HTML to wordpress and got swallowed.

   Comment by Anonymous — Tuesday, March 6, 2007 @ 8:21 pm

8. The length of the “Photo credits” section amply demonstrates the problem with the attribution clause in Creative Commons licenses - mpt

   It doesn’t. Firstly, what’s the problem? First-and-a-halfly, why the bunny ears around ‘Photo credits’? Secondly, attribution is what these people want and you want to use their photos and you don’t have to write to each of them to ask. Finally, you think it would be easier, do you, without CC Licensing?

   Comment by David Jones — Thursday, March 8, 2007 @ 6:37 pm

9. I completely agree that this project would have been impossible with traditionally copyrighted images, for an individual with zero budget and limited resources. That doesn’t mean the situation couldn’t be improved.

   The 2.6.20 release of the Linux kernel contains contributions from 741 different developers. And by “2.6.20 release,” I mean “new code that wasn’t previously in the 2.6.19 release.”

   Now imagine that every time you upgraded your kernel and rebooted your Linux box, you had to scroll through 741 lines of credits. 741 *additional* lines of credits, cumulatively.

   Creative Commons is fine for one-generation remixing. But you quickly hit a wall, either from data degradation, or cumulatively onerous license requirements, or some other damn thing.

   Such a missed opportunity. By the time most people even understand the problem, it’ll be too late.

   Comment by Mark — Thursday, March 8, 2007 @ 9:33 pm

10. There are two ways that Creative Commons is being misused/misunderstood:

    (1) Some are using it when they really should just be using traditional copyright, those who spaz when their burned in copyright notice is cropped out, or want linkbacks, or don’t like their work being used by people of different political opinions. These guys should just use traditional copyright and require people to contact them for permission.

    (2) Some are using it when they really should just be putting their stuff in the public domain. CC has this counterculture hippy dippy image, but in reality it has enough annoying restrictions that if you really want the world to freely use your images you should just renounce your copyright instead of using CC.

    Comment by Mark VII — Friday, March 9, 2007 @ 8:42 am

11. Lovely project.

    Comment by Adam Khan — Friday, March 9, 2007 @ 9:15 am

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